Chaos Clinic Recap
Here are Al's comments
3:11 I'm done for the day. Thank you for coming. See you nexzt week. Have a nice weekend. Take a course
3:06 +.5 -nice little break-just not enough players to make it great
3:05 stop 1115 -make a bit-be patient
2:54 since we made a high on the Saturn timeline, a 6 hour fractal would take us to the 3:50 Saturn timeline
learn about fractals in The Cahs In On Chaos and Fractal of Pi courses
2:51 the Fiegenbaum ratio is explained in the Cash In On Chaos course
2:43 stop 15.5-thank you Mr. Fiegenbaum
2:39 stop 1116 - it either goes here or I'm going
2:28 stop 1117-pretty intense right here
2:24 sold 15.5 stop 18.5
2:20 looks like another Crazy Harry fake-I think it is flat or down
2:16 broke 16 going up at the grid crossing -EXMA's still tangled
2:09 Crazy Harry, conductor of the S&P train, is playing with the hobos, trying to get them to jump on
1:44 tried to go up after passing Pluto, can't-bearish-continuation sell setting up
1:27 20 EXMA is staying under the 110-some downward pressure
1:20 this is a beautiful horizontal converging triangle framed by the yellow MoonTide Harmonic grid lines
1:15 chaos follows balance-going into third trade this boredom is good
1:00 easing below balance level-watching carefully
12:45 if you look at the Wheel of Fortune, see that the eXchange will conjoin 1116 price near 2:15-possible chaos point
12:41 back to the balance level-one cannot guarantee the outcome of a fractal set-
can go either way-if it could be 100% predicted I would own everything
12:28 coming into a green +Tide high
12:20 this is the 8th crossing of the 110 EXMA by the 20 EXMA today-chop,chop
12:03 still balanced -should hold until after 2:00
11:41 1116 is a chaos balance price-current chart show a "MoonTide Fractal Set" centered on it
11:30 in a trading range market, get mixed Tides. Red -Tide with small left shift set first low and second high
Green +Tide with small right shift set high of the day and this low-expect more congestion
11:26 I said I would be cautious today, and expected minor pushes of the 55 minute lows or highs-
so when I did not see more "push" I aborted
11:25 covering on stall for 0-don't like it
11:22 stop 15.5 -don't like the stall here
11:13 stop 16 - the Tides get me near a turn, then I just use the EXMA's-keep it simple
11:09 stop 17-just watching the EXMA's
11:05 sold 15 stop 18
11:01 could become a continuation sell-very fast bar
10:57 retest of 18.25 held-11:10 trade looking like a "pass" right now
10:46 this minor rally went a harmonic 3 points - a 50% retracement
10:40 it is also the pit's pivot point(given on SP1Day chart)and close to the Jupiter flux line
10:36 that "push" low is exactly a harmonic 6 points below the high
10:31 there is a small push of the 55 minute low - came right on the Node (O) timeline
10:22 this is a trading range market -prices will push the 55 minute high/low bands but turn not collapse them
10:19 the 20 EXMA has crossed the 110 3 times so far-says "Choppy" - be patient and wait
10:16 last minor rally stopped at 110 EXMA -another bearish sign-I'm not chasing this drop
10:09 the 20/110 EXMA's also told me that the rally might fail-before my entry, I noted prices both
side of the 110 EXMA-they had not yet proven that they would stay to one side-so I was cautious
10:05 The Venus/Saturn opposition to Chiron has been hot all week, but one way-here it is separating,
and became two way
10:03 now we got a vertical streak down the blue Venus (V) timeline-the high was exact on Venus price
9:58 the vertical lines with letters are planetary timelines-the horizonal ones are electric field flux lines
here we hit the grey Saturn (S)price line ( plus a little bit) on the grey Saturn timeline
9:57 out for 0 - not holding the 3 point quantum at 1119 is bearish
9:54 Venus/Saturn/Chiron price and time cluster
9:50 stop 18.5 -now I can sit tight
9:48 stop 18- I like to push fast on early trade-about midway between 20 and 110 EXMA
9:45 stop 16.5
9:43 bought 18.5 stop 15.5
9:42 now have a continuation buy setup-waiting for some follow through
9:38 minor rally-may be low volume day due to long weekend-will be cautious on trades
9:31 opening with prices both sides of 110 EXMA and right on yellow MoonTide Harmonic grid crossing
9:00 Good morning from Chaos Manor
Besides the comments made by Al, the chat room is has live
comments from other traders who sometimes share their views,
trades and tips. Below are the chat room comments from this clinic
9/3/2004 1:49:51 PM Mountain jfg:: Bye everyone, thanks for letting me sit in today.
9/3/2004 1:20:17 PM Mountain net:: getting a big buy signal on 10 min smh, semiconductor etf. maybe short covering after a hard down day or a ready for a rally on tue ?
9/3/2004 1:08:28 PM Mountain mjs:: IS Tide 32 pushing up a bit now? so down should contine shortly?
9/3/2004 1:04:57 PM Mountain mjs:: time for another stair step down OR? take the profits and run?
9/3/2004 1:02:57 PM Mountain mjs:: Since it is below the -Tide line does that work as resistance or is it just an energy line?
9/3/2004 12:59:23 PM Mountain mjs:: Do you think Fiegerbaum is explained on the web somewhere? I am not familiar with that ratio. Still looks like the trade is working well. As long as it stays below P now.
9/3/2004 12:53:42 PM Mountain mjs:: If we get to 3:00 and are sideways then it will break the -Tide so would it be good to close out there or better to let the profits run? Or move down a really tight stop?
9/3/2004 12:49:47 PM Mountain mjs:: I don't see anything to hold it here but still a few minutes more to bounce around like it did earlier. But then the Tide was moving together now they go apart. Look like more down.
9/3/2004 12:45:53 PM Mountain mjs:: Good it looks like it broke "P" this could be it. Is this a "streak" ?
9/3/2004 12:42:48 PM Mountain mjs:: looking like a stair step down the -tide.
9/3/2004 12:37:43 PM Mountain mjs:: Looks like a good trade to me. Market seems to have little conviction and with long weekend who wants to go long. Still was late compaed to first part of day. Cover on Close?
9/3/2004 12:16:13 PM Mountain jfg:: Pluto rising in NY and according to ephemeris, NY 144 to moon (at 14:15), moon within 5 degrees of 144 to Pluto (at 14:15), fwiw
9/3/2004 12:06:10 PM Mountain G9:: don't like it......I'm done. Monday is a new day.....have a good weekend folks
9/3/2004 11:58:09 AM Mountain net:: i think the bond mrkt closed early at noon c.s.t. tends to put the stock mrkt to sleep.
9/3/2004 11:51:29 AM Mountain jfg:: Yesterday market began to accelerate to the upside around the time of Jupiter conjunction with NY. That would be at this time today.
9/3/2004 11:45:23 AM Mountain jfg:: I believe there is some price and time squaring going on around now, 13:46 to 13:56 time frame . Possible, but not guaranteed, market movement as a result.
9/3/2004 11:25:04 AM Mountain mjs:: C, S, and V end the day. Tide 32 dips and then runs up. So from this can we expect positive or negative conclusion. Of course paying attention to EXMA always
9/3/2004 11:16:32 AM Mountain mjs:: So at a pivot! what is H, R, and P doing? Are they pushing and pulling so when we pass then about 1:30 we should get a direction from the Tide Turn at or just before 2:00
9/3/2004 10:09:44 AM Mountain net:: that low on pluto was with in 10 min of tide time. very nice
9/3/2004 10:01:54 AM Mountain g9:: took 2......see at 12:20 ;)
9/3/2004 9:54:14 AM Mountain mjs:: "P" could be the support if so and we break it at 3:00 that could be a major precursor for market ahead. This is also about where the QQQs are bouncing now that is at "P"
9/3/2004 9:51:51 AM Mountain g9:: Dr AL.....looking at the Moontide Harmonic grid.....low is in? Whata think, pain for the shorts into a Friday close?
9/3/2004 9:51:05 AM Mountain jfg:: will do, thanks.
9/3/2004 9:48:20 AM Mountain Al:: read the tutorial, linked on the list of charts page
9/3/2004 9:42:49 AM Mountain jfg:: Forgive my ignorance as a newbie, but are the "tides" the red and green wigglly lines, one an inversion of the other ? They look like "Natal" lines. Are they, and if so is there anything special about them (i.e. proprietary massaging or anything) ?
9/3/2004 9:40:11 AM Mountain mjs:: Looking at tides it seems this market will not take direction till 2:00 or later till then just a range and snaking. Any thing out there to effect this market befoe then?
9/3/2004 9:29:15 AM Mountain mjs:: looks to me like the turn are preceeding the tides so this is not a stall but the beginning or the rebound. Anything else to push market up?
9/3/2004 9:25:16 AM Mountain jfg:: correction, my last post about 20 minutes was wrong. I was looking at a 2 min chart, thinking it was a 1 min chart. So it would be 40 minutes rather than 20, again if the selling period is to be similar. Fwiw, I belive I see some squaring coming in at about 11:30
9/3/2004 9:22:43 AM Mountain g9:: Globex 1114.20 200SMA
9/3/2004 9:21:48 AM Mountain g9:: 1111.81 200SMA
9/3/2004 9:21:32 AM Mountain jfg:: thanks I see it now, the Red "R"
9/3/2004 9:21:21 AM Mountain mjs:: I was looking at the tide crossovers as turns. So now we go down to Mars or rather that far out in time and expect a turn?
9/3/2004 9:14:42 AM Mountain net:: jfg, far right of screen is red r for mars
9/3/2004 9:11:42 AM Mountain jfg:: If this selling is similar to yesterdays at this time, then it should last about 20 minutes from the 10:55 high...
9/3/2004 9:11:09 AM Mountain net:: al's chart 1113
9/3/2004 9:09:03 AM Mountain jfg:: Is there a Mars horizontal on Al's char ? What price level are you refering to, to see if my chart is similar. My next mars line is at about 1110.00 fwiw Is that the same as your's ?
9/3/2004 9:04:53 AM Mountain net:: down to mars ?
9/3/2004 9:03:20 AM Mountain jfg:: Do you think the current drop is an an echo (or repeat) so to speak of yesterday's Vertex action mentioned ?
9/3/2004 9:00:26 AM Mountain mjs:: Being new to this system it doesn't appear the market is being effected yet by the tides? Am I seeing this correct?
9/3/2004 8:53:03 AM Mountain Al:: the only audio is a beep when a new comment is made
9/3/2004 8:52:04 AM Mountain jfg:: (I assume there is no audio to this chat room and that I don't need my earphones on, correct ?)
9/3/2004 8:48:19 AM Mountain mjs:: I checked Briefing.com and they day cyclicals up tech down giving no real direction but slighlty negative. Is it useful to look at such comment trading your charts?
9/3/2004 8:45:24 AM Mountain jfg:: Yesterday morning's uptrend turned to retracement at 11:01 Ephemeris said that at 11:00 Vertex 12O Neptune, 11:05 Vertex 90 Mars and Vertex 144 Chiron. Today's Eph says these should take place at 10:55 and 11:03 , fwiw, if anything. Do you follow Vertex at all ? I'm trying to learn about it.
9/3/2004 8:39:57 AM Mountain jfg:: I believe some price-time squaring is going on at this point (10:38 to 10:412 time frame NY time, so possibly some pause, revesal or acceleration.
9/3/2004 8:27:03 AM Mountain Al:: you are correct
9/3/2004 8:25:45 AM Mountain jfg:: I'm curious about your chart, with a quick glance at my ephemeris, it seems that your "time" lines are possibly the times when NY is conjunct with the particular planetary body, is that correct, or is there something else to it (your vertical colored lines)?
9/3/2004 7:44:47 AM Mountain jfg:: Thanks Al...
9/3/2004 7:42:08 AM Mountain Al:: watch the Chaos Clinic page for my comments
9/3/2004 7:37:16 AM Mountain jfg:: This is my first time to the clinic. Is it open now, and will there be comments and discussion forthcoming ? Thanks !
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