Chaos Clinic Recap
Here are Al's comments
3:06 I'm done for the day-thanks for coming-have a great Thanksgiving-see you in 2 weeks
2:55 the diagonal white grid is forming a trendline under this move-may see 1176 by close-not something to trade, just watch
2:52 from the open one can see 7 moves into the last low, so the down Chaos Clamshell may be done
2:44 lows near 10:30, 12:30, 2:30
2:42 when you get a low at 2:30 after a down day, the market usually holds up into the close
2:37 aborting -.25--110 lost it's curl
2:35 this is like watching the Grand Canyon erode
2:24 slowly rolling over to the right-stop 73.5-cover is 67.25
2:15 near 2:30 the trend will often accelerate-watching for that
2:03 stop 1174
2:00 sold 72.25 stop 75.25 -continuation sell
1:58 20 EXMA is below 110, which has gentle down slope as per green +Tide
1:55 This is a thrust-congestion pattern, normally followed by another thrust in same direction
1:51 after 2:00 the Tide slope changes -if we get some motion I may try again, but for now, no
1:47 covering on the stall -.25
1:34 it is hard staying awake on this one-holding for now but may cover if not moving after 2:00
1:18 so far so good-stop 1170.75-cover is 1176.75, 4 point target on oob trade
1:07 coming to the Mercury/Pluto timelines-normally bullish
1:00 decline from open was 3 hours, 1/8th day-3 hours up would take us to 3:30, last Tide turn
12:50 oob buy 1172.75 stop 1170
12:48 last low was right on the Moon/Uranus timelines, and a Natural Time -no trade yet
12:34 the first quarter of the moon is exact at 12:50 and the Xchg just passed it-should add energy
12:20 the general shape of the price pattern matches the shape of the red -Tide
12:12 covered on stall rule -1.5
12:02 this trade is stuck in the mud-I have 2 choices-cover, or hold my full 3 point stop-holding for now
11:54 for the past hour, the slope of the 110 EXMA matches the slope of the green +Tide
11:45 an out of band trade is a "return to the mean" trade-the mean in this case is the 110 EXMA
11:38 pretty lethargic-markets have two modes -chaotic and stable
11:31 bought 74 oob buy, stop 71
11:10 now approaching the 11:50 trade time-only possible one right now is an out of band buy-but not yet
11:04 stopped-this is some serious selling-first in a month
11:03 still holding around the Chiron flux-on SP9Day chart hit the lower band edge, so expect modest rally
10:47 stop 72 - minor high on Venus flux -may not work but fun to see real Market Astro Physics
10:43 This morning's sky showed me Jupiter, Mars, and Venus-passed Mars time at Jupiter price
10:41 if you look at the yellow MoonTide Harmonic grid lines down, we spanned 4 of them-a common "range"
10:38 this trade is not a hotline trade-just a read-bought 73 stop 71
10:37 still probing for a bottom-at the Jupiter flux-saw it in the morning sky earlier
10:31 The streak was 12 points-1/6th of a circle-a 50% rally would be normal
10:24 looks like the streak is over-support at 1173 from the Moon T+135 flux-not shown on this chart
10:20 I was looking for a pullback to 1170, but did not expect it in the first hour!
10:14 since Chiron timeline kicked this off, should see Chiron price 1174.5 -OK-just did
10:10 streak down Node timeline to Node price flux-not out of band, so rally more probable
11:07 1179 did not hold for long
10:06 that low is holding, so now I expect a modest rally - late in the day should see another decline
10:02 now right at a crossing on the diagonal yellow MoonTide Harmonic grid 1179
9:57 the low was just above the lower band edge-watching the 20 EXMA to see if prices can get above it
9:47 I had not planned a trade on the opening, so I will not chase this, but collect the information
for later use
9:39 fast streak down the Chiron timeline-bearish for the day
9:36 Initial prices are trapped between the Uranus/Moon electric flux at 1182.5 and
the Mercury/Pluto at 1186
9:31 quiet, flat opening -maybe an upward bias
9:00 Good morning from Chaos Manor
Besides the comments made by Al, the chat room is has live
comments from other traders who sometimes share their views,
trades and tips. Below are the chat room comments from this clinic
11/19/2004 1:35:11 PM Mountain wlj:: looks like an m/p 18 jump
11/19/2004 1:31:57 PM Mountain wlj:: 1170 it is. al called that in the a.m. as well
11/19/2004 1:14:56 PM Mountain mjs:: I'm thinking we might see 1170 by the end of the day
11/19/2004 1:08:29 PM Mountain mjs:: So how does this week setup the next week or more. Looks like 1189 was the top and we are now forming up the new CS down. But on a longer term basis if you use the NYA we broke out of a flag from the beginning of the year and punched through 3 resistence levels. So pull back and then assault on 1250 for the SP or pull back to 1050?
11/19/2004 1:05:57 PM Mountain wlj:: if it drops, next wkly number below 1171.50 is 1167.75
11/19/2004 12:55:24 PM Mountain mjs:: My best fit is on the 9 day with the smalest CS which gives this leg about 2.5 days and shows a lower close as the most logical still a lot of space to move around in out in the Arizona territory on that horse.
11/19/2004 12:48:12 PM Mountain wlj:: all options on the new microsoft horse saddle
11/19/2004 12:46:34 PM Mountain wlj:: lap top and wire less internet
11/19/2004 12:42:27 PM Mountain mjs:: Yea but you can do that on horseback out in the fresh air
11/19/2004 12:22:18 PM Mountain mjs:: I think Chiron wiped out the bulls energy at the beginning of the day
11/19/2004 11:38:22 AM Mountain mm:: Looks like a CIT right on Al's 1:15, on the minute.
11/19/2004 11:12:36 AM Mountain wlj:: MJS, planets in our galaxie effect things in our galaxie as we see with markets on earth.... galaxies effecting other galaxies just seems like the same thing on a larger scale...more wheels with in wheels......the universal clock.
11/19/2004 10:59:05 AM Mountain TG:: 12:26 natural time low for the day. A few intraday cycle seem to have turned up.
11/19/2004 10:57:40 AM Mountain mjs:: Astrologer says source of change in polarity discovered. This is from Manfred Zimmel in Austria. Claims old German Astrology book attributes to one of the Galaxies and by tracing its position you can foretel Polarity in play and changes. I don't think there is any "science" behind this claim or Physics
11/19/2004 10:32:45 AM Mountain wlj:: if we stay with red tide perhaps m/p price to m/p time
11/19/2004 10:00:10 AM Mountain mjs:: Perhaps a far out thought: In music you modify harmonics by changing the time of notes and the length of the note (A,B,C etc.) so the problem in getting a good fit for our fractal is that we do not modify time like you can in music. If todays action was music you would have a bunch of 1/16 and a few whole notes but you would be able to recognice the Major scores like C major of D minor and there are only a limited number that fit together to have harmony. If you do it otherwise it sound horrible and no one listens to it. So how do we modify time or the way we count it to reveal the natural rythum?
11/19/2004 9:47:32 AM Mountain mjs:: If we don't get a bounc up here I am voting on more sideways and a late day dip to 1170. All my layers 9 day, 2 day, and today suggest this is the place for a bounce up. So results may set up late day trade. But looks like up is hard to do today
11/19/2004 9:30:23 AM Mountain wlj:: sp cycle guys were calling for 15 thru 19 to be short term hi.... fib guys said 17 thru 18.
11/19/2004 9:24:12 AM Mountain TG:: If we're going to get a good oob buy for 11:50 tide time, then I'd think either the 11:22 tide 32 time or the 11:32 natural time would mark a low.
11/19/2004 9:21:38 AM Mountain TG:: Nov 17 time price square, 769 calendar days from the Oct 10 2002 SPX 769 price low providing a little hick up so far.
11/19/2004 9:14:10 AM Mountain mjs:: Greenspan says those not hedged for higher rates will lose money at Euro Conf in GR. HUM who is buying those hedges? and how can they offset the risk? with longs or shorts on? $$, Euro, basket of commodities. What tangle webs are being weaved
11/19/2004 9:10:54 AM Mountain wlj:: 1171.50 is a wkly support number, lets see if that holds
11/19/2004 9:04:37 AM Mountain wlj:: looks like yesterday, same upside down h/s at this time
11/19/2004 8:59:14 AM Mountain mjs:: Looking at Mandelbrot price is ahead of time so we need to go sideways to align with the trading fractal and get in sync again. Still doens't say which way we will tip
11/19/2004 8:46:10 AM Mountain wlj:: in time moon 0 deg ura now....hi near merc/pluto price, very near 0 deg apart. all email
11/19/2004 8:45:03 AM Mountain mjs:: I am getting my best ideas from the 9 day chart and its pivots. Yest'd I ran my life feed at 60 min and that makes a good case for a mirror image of the trip up. Time will tell.
11/19/2004 8:36:09 AM Mountain mjs:: I am glad you didnt expect it in the first hour as at 9:38 the 20/110 was set up for a long and we were in a nice trading range and sleepy minds sure could have gone long or minds lulled into the tight range or yest'd
11/19/2004 8:28:25 AM Mountain mjs:: What is happening is consistant with a clamshell on the 9 day chart. Now close to a possible up or at lease a pause to refresh before the final drop
11/19/2004 8:23:35 AM Mountain wlj:: maybe chrion time down to chrion price
11/19/2004 8:19:51 AM Mountain wlj:: looks like chrion has purchased a mine shaft company as well
11/19/2004 8:19:29 AM Mountain mjs:: Well got to my 1176 projections and on time too. Now sideways or up so it stays in tune.
11/19/2004 8:13:56 AM Mountain wlj:: mjs, big run up since oct 25 low and little pull back seems bullish as does 300 to 500 new highs to single digit new lows of late. as al says 1190 will tell the tale.
11/19/2004 8:00:01 AM Mountain mjs:: NO! Breifing.com says its profit taking. Everything is under control you can go back to your seats.
11/19/2004 7:50:04 AM Mountain wlj:: the chrion trap door company.
11/19/2004 7:46:18 AM Mountain mjs:: WOW 3 pts in 30 sec. 1185 to 1182 at 09:38 Don't need any more lesson on using stops than that. Still range bound through
11/19/2004 7:36:30 AM Mountain mjs:: All the advisor services think this is a turning point. Some are looking up to 1250 and some down to 1050 by Jan 05. It does look like a balance point here. None of the Astro seem to have kicked in we passed the Eclipse, Saturn, Uranus, and a new Moon on our way to here. So whatever it is it is powerful.
11/19/2004 7:07:15 AM Mountain wlj:: new exchange traded fund started trading yesterday. syb.= GLD follows the price of gold. 10 times the price = the price of gold.
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